# 6dof tracking without rendering

**URL:** <https://forum.8thwall.com/t/6dof-tracking-without-rendering/8150>\
**Category:** Technical Support\
**Created:** [August 21, 2025, 2:43pm UTC](https://forum.8thwall.com/t/6dof-tracking-without-rendering/8150 "2025-08-21T14:43:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Ludovic\_David](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c89c15/32.png) [@Ludovic\_David](https://forum.8thwall.com/u/Ludovic_David)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 2:43pm UTC](https://forum.8thwall.com/t/6dof-tracking-without-rendering/8150/1 "2025-08-21T14:43:01Z")

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Hi!

I want to create a website that use 8thwall to get 6dof tracking abilities and send positions/rotations of the phone to another app by websocket.

Is there an easy way to setup 8thwall without displaying anything more than a normal webpage? Equivalent to 8thwall “running in background” of a regular webpage? maybe with the aframe version of 8thwall?

Thanks in advance,

Have a great day.

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**Author:** ![Evan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.8thwall.com/evan/32/431_2.png) [@Evan](https://forum.8thwall.com/u/Evan)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://forum.8thwall.com/t/6dof-tracking-without-rendering/8150/2 "2025-08-21T17:11:43Z")

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Hi there!

This sounds like an interesting setup, could you share a bit more about your use case and what you’re hoping to achieve?

In general, it is possible to run 8th Wall without displaying anything on the webpage. You don’t need a 3D framework like A-Frame/three.js for this. You still need to pass a canvas into `XR8.run()`, but you don’t have to render anything.

You can skip modules like `XR8.GlTextureRenderer.pipelineModule()` / `XR8.Threejs.pipelineModule() `and use a custom pipeline module to capture pose data and send it elsewhere.

Let us know more and we’re happy to help you get going!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic\_David](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c89c15/32.png) [@Ludovic\_David](https://forum.8thwall.com/u/Ludovic_David)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2025, 8:38am UTC](https://forum.8thwall.com/t/6dof-tracking-without-rendering/8150/3 "2025-08-28T08:38:58Z")

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Thanks a lot for your response. Is this doable in studio or is an APP\_KEY mandatory?

The idea is to use the phone as 6dof controllers for another WebXR app!

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**Author:** ![Evan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.8thwall.com/evan/32/431_2.png) [@Evan](https://forum.8thwall.com/u/Evan)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.8thwall.com/t/6dof-tracking-without-rendering/8150/4 "2025-09-02T18:00:59Z")

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You can develop in the legacy cloud editor without an app key: [Create Legacy Editor Project | 8th Wall](https://www.8thwall.com/docs/legacy/guides/projects/create-legacy-editor-project/)